Wednesday, August 02, 2006

Qana Carnage

Lebanon awoke Sunday to another massacre in Qana.
56 dead, mostly women and children.
The same village had been hit in 1996, killing 100 civilians sheltering in a UN base.

The grizzly scenes of bodies being pulled out of the rubble was played again and again on almost every news channel worldwide.
The world was outraged.
Calls for an immediate ceasefire echoed around the globe.

Yes, now we deserve a ceasefire, don't we?
You see, the 650 civilians killed since July 12th were killed over the span of 3 weeks, in different attacks. That's not an outrage.

But 56 killed all at once?!
That is terrible.
Here you go Lebanon, you've 'earned' your calls for a ceasefire now.

What's that? Israel needs another 2 weeks to wrap it up?
Ah well, ermmm, okay. But just 2 weeks.

And for the love of God don't kill them all at once this time.
It looks bad.

Update: I didn't get to post this yesterday due to Internet access. In this time, the Israeli media has made several claims to justify this massacre from claiming this was a building where rockets were being fired into Israel to the suggestion that Hezbollah may have staged the whole thing.

I strongly dismiss both of these 'justifications'. There was no photographic evidence presented by the IDF showing rockets being fired from this building. And the town was being continuously shelled 80 times that night by Israeli artillery fire making it impossible for anyone to stage anything.

Did the Israeli gunner know that there were 56 civilians in that building and aimed for it intentionally? Doubtful.
Does the IDF find it much easier to practice a 'scorched earth' policy than to avoid hitting civilians? There are 650 souls that would testify that this is very often the case.

"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem." - Joseph Stalin


Anonymous gee said...

Well, it's 28, not 56. Not that it makes it less horrible, but anyway - the number 56 or 60 was Hezbollah propaganda. See Red Cross and HRW reports. So must be also a number of 650. I'd divide at least in half.

3:08 AM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gee, you're a monster. So let's say 26. does that make it better or justifiable. and if the 700 is divided by 2, does that make it less horrible. wake up and see the hate you are expressing. these are 600 people, PEOPLE,
HUMAN BEINGS. even one civilian death on either side of the border is a shame. and anyway the numbers issued are from the lebanese government not hizbollah. It is not propaganda. The propaganda is what you are trying to say.
I know you said it does not make it less horrible, but just the fact that you said that you would divide it by half means you think it's not that bad.

3:20 AM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous gee said...

No, 28 instead of 60 doesn't make it less horrible. Sorry if my words sound this way.

But let's admit the number 28 wouldn't be so hot for world media, so Lebanon made it 60, just for propaganda's sake.

That makes me don't trust Lebanese sources when they report about huge losses and "massacres" all over the place.

3:56 AM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how do you know that it is lebanon that lied and not israel to try to decrease world anger at the massacres. Or you believe what pleases you more, or makes you sleep better at night (something we the lebanese have not had any of for 22 days thanks to our loving neighbors).

6:53 AM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gee by the way, today the known dead removed from the building so far are 28, 14 more are still missing because they could not get to them under the rubble. When you want to refer to something you have to display all the information, not only the part that pleases you. The number 56 was based on the people that were not accounted for initially of the 63 that were in the basement, I think that is what is usually done in this situation, by any country. lebanon is not lying and we all wish that tomorrow we will wake up and not have to report any deaths.

7:06 AM, August 03, 2006  
Blogger inmotion said...

Is there even a point in asking when this will all stop anymore?

8:06 AM, August 03, 2006  
Blogger LindaSoG said...

Interesting picture you posted there. Where did that child die? It certainly didn't die when a building fell on on it. Where's the dust? Where's the dirt?

For that matter, where did that rescue guy come from, surely you are not trying to tell us that he was digging in the rubble for bodies, his clothes are so clean!

Where did you get that picture and what is the point of posting with this story when it obviously has nothing to do with what happened in Qana?

4:18 PM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LindaSog, you're as heartless as they make them. May God, Allah, Dieu, Bouddah etc. have mercy on your soul.
The Devil is laughing today, he is waiting for you with open arms.

4:41 PM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous Roa said...

Check this website:
There are enough dust covered bodies and body chunks to satisfy your offended sensibilities. In this day and age and after three weeks of bloody fighting, it is not an excuse to plead ignorance.
PS. Forget about heartless. Your analysis of the picture insults our intelligence.

9:28 PM, August 03, 2006  
Blogger Carmel said...

you don't honestly believe that IDF is *trying* to kill civilians, do you? I'm not expecting you to believe our values and such but at least cut us some slack that we don't need all this world view jumping at us....

i don't buy my government's shit on many issues but this one was clearly a mistake and i even tend to believe those conspiracy theories of a planned trap by Hezbollah since Qana is so symbolic. (here are some lebanese who think they can prove it:

i understand lindasog's suspicion since we live in the age of the digital image and people stage and fake things you wouldn't believe, remember gulf war? nobody's denying Qana happened but i wouldn't advice on taking media images for granted.

10:01 PM, August 04, 2006  
Anonymous Outraged! said...

LindaSog, you're outed...

Interesting blog by Jim quilty.

11:34 PM, August 04, 2006  
Blogger LindaSoG said...

How ridiculous you all sound.

No one said that no one died at Qana. I didn't say that no one died at Qana.

But surely you don't believe the child in this picture did, nor did that "rescue worker" dig that body out of the rubble.

Are you so blinded by hate that you can't you see that you are being lied to and manipulated by your emotions?

9:59 PM, August 05, 2006  
Blogger LindaSoG said...

Rao, I simply cannot believe the injustice that is being done on that site you sent me to.

A good many of those pictures come from many years ago, and have nothing to do with what Lebanon is going through now. Many of the bodies removed from the site a Qana were not killed there.

Do you approve of terrorists hiding behind women, children and the elderly?

Would you like to see some pictures of Israeli children killed by the terrorists you defend?

How about a picture of a one year old Israeli child shot dead through the head by a terrorist, in her crib as she slept?

How about a pregnant mother with a bullet through her belly, put there by a terrorist, surrounded by all of her children with bullets in their bodies also killed by terrorists?

How about pictures of the family that Samir Kuntar slaughtered and went to prison for?

Remember, that's why Hezbollah started this "war," to secure the release of Samir Kuntar. Would you like to see a picture of the two year old girl that Kuntar killed by smashing her head against a rock with a rifle, after making her watch her father be killed first?

Or do the dead only count if they are Lebanese?

10:10 PM, August 05, 2006  
Anonymous Roa said...

You could have spared us the outrage. Not only do I not support Hizbollah, I am not quite sure which party fills me more with helpless rage: the insane Israeli killing machine or the crazed ideologues. In fact, as far as I am concerned they are iranian "collaborators" and should be tried for that. I won't use the word terrorists though because that is a highly charged term that has been overabused. In terms of Islamic fundamentalism I prefer to reserve the term for Al-Qaeda members and the Iraqi insurgency. As for Quntar, he killed a child and he is a criminal and I never believed otherwise.
I digress. The point is despite any political inclination what happened at Qana is unacceptable. Period. Even if Hizbollah fighters and missiles were actually VISIBLE around the complex, it should not be targeted. Stop using the ridiculous argument. Some of us are as angry with Hizbollah as with the IDF. As for the Israeli casualties, I am deeply distressed by their deaths. I confess I havent been as devastated by their losses as by our own but that is because ours are overwhelming.
As for Qana, I do not agree with you at all. The images are genuine and your comment that the pictures came from many years ago is interesting because even if true, we all know who killed them also at that time: Israel.
So please do not jump into rash conclusions. I was amazed by your strange comment when the horrible deaths were there for all to see but I never said that I wanted this to happen in the first place or that I supported Hizbollah.
I hope things are clearer now.

4:43 AM, August 06, 2006  
Blogger gene said...

for a country to have two armies is a receipe for disaster-because power is at play here -and the people of Lebanon pay the price-israel too.
Please smoke a peace pipe (With hashish)and get rid of hate.

2:23 AM, August 07, 2006  

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