Sunday, July 23, 2006

How many times must the cannonballs fly?

This was the July 21st front page of The Independent.
























(Hat tip: Kottke)

17 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the US and the UK are the two countries which have been mostly right in the last 200 years...
And they are right today!

8:19 PM, July 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who are the only two countries who can actually insist on a cease-fire? Israel & the US.

Sucks to be anyone else, reminded daily of your own powerlessness.

8:23 PM, July 23, 2006  
Blogger Ramzi said...

Yeah yeah, world powers and yet browsing blogs to comment anonymously?

Grow a spine, write something worthwhile.

8:27 PM, July 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a hypocrite you are Ramzi, medical doctor from Beirut, Lebanon.

Talk about being anonymous.

You want something worthwhile...

There will be no cease fire until Israel wants one. Thank Hezbollah for starting this war which will only end when Israel says it will. And no matter how much anyone else wants it to be otherwise, it will not. What else is there to say. That is the reality of it. The newpaper you show expresses what? Only that much of world would like the war to stop (as they do every war), is powerlessness to do anything about it, and sure as hell will not put their troops in harms way to help Lebanon and try to make it stop. So what point are you trying to make with this newspaper?

FYI - many of the flags in the yes column have not expressed any position either way, so the graphic alone is not even accurate.

9:20 PM, July 23, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Canada is not in the good list.

9:55 PM, July 23, 2006  
Blogger Ramzi said...

Again with the anonymous comments.

First spineless: Go look up what a hypocrite is before you go labelling other people as being so. That other countries are using diplomacy instead of armies to protect Lebanon is a testament to their civility, one would wish Israel had the same standards. I doubt your attitude is that of all Israelis, because no country can hold so much hate and remain intact. If you do speak for all Israelis, then all the luck to you my friend. You have much bigger problems than Hezbollah.

Second spineless: The United Nations called for a ceasefire, and that speaks for every country in the world. The US, UK and Israel have stated their rejection of a ceasefire and so are on the "No" side of the graphic.

11:34 PM, July 23, 2006  
Anonymous Nahmani said...

There will be no ceasefire until we get what we went for this war over, what do you think, that we bomb things for fun? What's this, hollywood? There are goals for this war and they are...

Implementing resolution 1559 (disarming Hizballah).

Giving us back the two kidnapped soldiers.

There will be no ceasefire until these two things are accomplished, get it, no one except for us decides on when and if there is a ceasefire, not the UN, not Italy and not Syria.

What can I say, if Elias Mur can fight to his last soldier in the case of an Israeli invasion but it doesnt tickle his left nut that half of his country is already occupied by an Iranian army, then that's some priorities you guys have.

12:07 AM, July 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That other countries are using diplomacy instead of armies to protect Lebanon is a testament to their civility, one would wish Israel had the same standards."

Protection? Rome burned while Nero fiddled.

One can only hope that such civility will not be the death of Lebanon.

12:23 AM, July 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The UN speaks for every country in the world? Really? Then since when has Lebanon cared what the rest of the world thinks - Resolution 1559 ring a bell?

Funny how you seek to hide behind the UN when it suits your interest, but ignore the UN when it does not.

1:16 AM, July 24, 2006  
Blogger Xylocaine said...

LOOk who's talking about UN resolutions...an ISraeli...ha ha ha ha

Just an example: It took israel 25 years to implement resolution 425...

give us 25 years...we'll implement 1559...LOL

2:09 AM, July 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So then we can expect the current war to last 25 years more or less until Lebanon gets around to Res. 1559? Okay, well at least that is settled.

2:19 AM, July 24, 2006  
Blogger Akiva M said...

To the anonymi (that is the plural of anonymous, right?):

Stop. Agree or disagree with Ramzi, but don't question his sincerity.

4:49 AM, July 24, 2006  
Blogger aroundtheclock24_7 said...

Very Smart way of representing it to the world ;) Thanx again Ramzi for sharing it, hope all is well with you and the family. Salam to the other doctor :)

7:19 AM, July 24, 2006  
Anonymous girl across the sea said...

"anonymi" I like that...

Many times when visiting this site the past year there has been a picture or a short clip posted that speaks volumes...so without getting too political with this...

Yes Sir Harper did say "Responsibility for the escalating violence in the Middle East rests entirely with those who have kidnapped Israeli soldiers" Yes he did align himself firmly with the United States and Israel.

When an international border is crossed and a country is invaded...I believe it is written they have the right to fight back..

I guess when borders are crossed anywhere in the world...people should just sit...be quiet and wait to die

The rest of the story is just too sad...

ALSO maybe you should read the archives to understand as much as one can under this medium the person who owns these blogs...instead of making unwise judgements because you decided under these circumstances it would be "cool" to visit Lebanese blogs...

Pray

9:52 AM, July 24, 2006  
Anonymous nahmani said...

"give us 25 years...we'll implement 1559...LOL"

Ok, 25 more years like the last two weeks? That's what you want? Damnit, why are you people so stupid, what's hard to get, there will be -no ceasefire- until you agree to our terms (which are pretty rational when you think about it, dont kill us), you can cry and show pictures of dead people (I am really sorry for every person who had nothing to do with this) but it wont not help, your are not negotiating with Jordan or Sweden, you are against us, and remember that every single death happens because of you and all of these deaths could of been avoided if it werent for you, so stop your self pity and do something, because the solution is only in your hands.

12:44 PM, July 24, 2006  
Blogger MCP said...

1.«Israel is likely to kill enough Lebanese to outrage the world, increase anti-Israeli and anti-American attitudes, nurture a new generation of anti-Israeli guerrillas, and help hard-liners throughout the region and beyond. (Sudan's cynical rulers, for example, will manipulate Arab outrage to gain cover to continue their genocide in Darfur.) But Israel is unlikely to kill more terrorists than it creates.»
Nicholas D. Kristoff, «New York Times», today.

7:31 PM, July 24, 2006  
Anonymous Joop said...

I am opposed to the Israeli defensive action in Lebanon. I am also opposed to Syria & Iran's use of its proxy Hizbollah army in the very blatant attempt to undermine lebanon and allow Syria to reannex Lebanon. However, I am also not naive and realize that a great many of the casualties are a direct result of the Hizbollah army placing its rocket launchers, arms caches and troops purposely in civilian areas. This speaks to the mentality of those that have attacked Israel. The U.N. humanitarian chief described Hezbollah's tactics of "cowardly blending" in among Lebanese civilians and causing the deaths of hundreds during two weeks of cross-border violence with Israel. He went on further to state; "I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men."

Yes war is awful. Even easier for me to say because I am not in the middle of it or suffering. But I also appreciate that Israel must be taking significant care and risk if the number of civilian casualties is this low. When I served in Bosnia, 300 was what we could see in a day or so. Israel is not intentionally targeting civilians. Hizbollah is, both in Israel where it sends its rockets, and in Lebanon where it hides.

That is my opinion, and for what it's worth, I do appreciate that you have tried to remain open and honest as the bombs crash around you. I hope you emerge safe and sane, because lebanon will need you when it rebuilds, and rebuild it will. The Lebanese are strong, resilient and tough, despite the continual interference from foreigners. Please do not give up or lose hope.

3:01 AM, July 25, 2006  

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